BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy

[Java Jive]

BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514

"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.

It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

But the regulator said that was confusing and price rises should be
spelt out in "in pounds and pence."

BT has announced it will introduce that change from summer 2024.

According to a blog post from BT consumer chief Marc Allera, that means
mobile customers will see mid-contract price rises "from £1.50", while
broadband customers will face rises of £3."

[Andy Burns]

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.

They may be expressed in £ and p, but will they be suspici

[Woody]

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after
the telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.

They may be expressed in £ and p, but will they be suspiciously close to
inflation + 3.9% ?

Er, 3.9% plus CPI (or RPI if you use VM.))

[Chris]

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

Post by Java Jive
But the regulator said that was confusing and price rises should be
spelt out in "in pounds and pence."
BT has announced it will introduce that change from summer 2024.

Conveniently after the current round of price rises of ~13%

[Woody]

Post by Chris

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

Post by Java Jive
But the regulator said that was confusing and price rises should be
spelt out in "in pounds and pence."
BT has announced it will introduce that change from summer 2024.

Conveniently after the current round of price rises of ~13%

Hmm, well, possibly not.

Most SPs are using the CPI in February so given it will probably be
around 4% we should expect about 8% (10% for VM) overall?

[Roger]

On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:04:23 -0000 (UTC), Chris

Post by Chris

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

The advertisements say CPI/RPI + 3.9%. In the unlikely event
that inflation was say -1% then -1 + 3.9 = 2.9%. Any company
which didn't do that would be guilty of false advertising.

[Andy Burns]

Post by Roger
The advertisements say CPI/RPI + 3.9%. In the unlikely event
that inflation was say -1% then -1 + 3.9 = 2.9%. Any company
which didn't do that would be guilty of false advertising.

I believe they say if RPI/CPI goes negative, it will be treated as zero.

[Woody]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Roger
The advertisements say CPI/RPI + 3.9%. In the unlikely event
that inflation was say -1% then -1 + 3.9 = 2.9%. Any company
which didn't do that would be guilty of false advertising.

I believe they say if RPI/CPI goes negative, it will be treated as zero.

Correct

[Chris]

Post by Roger
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:04:23 -0000 (UTC), Chris

Post by Chris

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

The advertisements say CPI/RPI + 3.9%. In the unlikely event
that inflation was say -1% then -1 + 3.9 = 2.9%. Any company
which didn't do that would be guilty of false advertising.

Not sure how that changes anything?

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by Chris
Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

Perhaps not in the long term though ... ?

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Post by Chris
Mobile and broadband firms accused of fuelling UK ‘greedflation’ with

major price hikes
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jun/27/mobile-and-broadband-firms-accused-of-fuelling-uk-greedflation-with-major-price-hikes

Post by Chris
"Analysis published by the Guardian today reveals that six companies

controlling most of the telecoms market all charged a 3.9 percentage
point supplement on top of their annual inflation-linked increases this
year."
I have just come to the end of a 2 year contract with TalkTalk and
signed up for another 2 years - and its now £2 a month cheaper than the
last renewal.


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This topic periodically comes up for discussion, but my general
impression is that the start prices of broadband contracts for new
customers are not shifting very much in the long term.


If OfCom wanted to do something useful for (broadband AND mobile)
customers they would prevent the direct debits automatically carrying on
at the end of the 2 year contracts.

[Clive Page]

Post by Chris

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

But the Government have been doing very much the same with rail fares for many years, setting everyone a bad example.

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by Clive Page
But the Government have been doing very much the same with rail fares
for  many years, setting everyone a bad example.

Not really - because you don't sign a new rail fare contract at a
reduced price every 2 years.


So in fact, rail fares have a significantly higher rate of inflation,
along with MPs salaries.

[Chris]

Post by Clive Page

Post by Chris

Post by Java Jive
BT changes mobile and broadband price rise policy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67994514
"BT is abandoning mid-contract price rises linked to inflation after the
telecoms watchdog Ofcom threatened to ban the practice.
It has been one of several providers to tell customers the cost of their
mobile and broadband services would increase by inflation plus a fixed
percentage.

Which contributes to INCREASING inflation. I never understood the point of
the fixed percentage above inflation. It's essentially allowing telcos an
automatic 3.9% minimum annual price rise. The total should be capped.

But the Government have been doing very much the same with rail fares for
many years, setting everyone a bad example.

Not the last two years. Plus you have the choice of ticket and/or whether
to travel by train.