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Adding an external aerial to a mifi unit
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Tim+
2018-08-04 17:41:25 UTC
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I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.

It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?

Any recommendations?

Tim
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R. Mark Clayton
2018-08-04 17:59:12 UTC
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Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
On Huawei kit the 3/4G aerial socket appears to be TS9 and they sell an aerial.

Of there is a wi-fi socket(s) it is probably SMA.

Leads to both should be kept as short as possible and it is usually better to lacate the mifi / dongle in a position for good reception and use a longer USB cable.
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Any recommendations?
Tim
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Woody
2018-08-04 21:54:20 UTC
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Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha's
to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
We would pronounce it huh-warh-way but they miss the leading H and
call it warh-way.
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R. Mark Clayton
2018-08-05 11:08:52 UTC
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Post by Woody
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha's
to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
We would pronounce it huh-warh-way but they miss the leading H and
call it warh-way.
Close
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Huawei_pronunciation.ogg

I think the problem is more to do with English spelling than Chinese pronunciation with this one.
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bert
2018-08-07 19:59:44 UTC
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In article <pk579k$irh$***@dont-email.me>, Woody <***@ntlworld.com>
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Post by Woody
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha's
to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
We would pronounce it huh-warh-way but they miss the leading H and
call it warh-way.
Not Howay as in Howay the lads?
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bert
Martin Brown
2018-08-06 15:29:58 UTC
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Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
I got a generic Chinese one from eBay for UK 3G band (actually a brace
of them) and an adaptor to convert the fitting to the required TS9. I
have never needed to use both to get an acceptable signal. It gives
about 10dB of gain although ISTR it claimed 14dB in the advert. Took a
month or so to arrive (you can get nicer ones faster from Solwise).

+1 for the recommendation to use a longer USB cable and get the dongle
well away from any electrically noisy PC and as high up as possible.

There are two competing standards on 3G for plug socket combos and the
wrong one will destroy the other so be sure to get the right one!
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Martin Brown
Tim+
2018-08-07 07:11:51 UTC
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Post by Martin Brown
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
I got a generic Chinese one from eBay for UK 3G band (actually a brace
of them) and an adaptor to convert the fitting to the required TS9. I
have never needed to use both to get an acceptable signal. It gives
about 10dB of gain although ISTR it claimed 14dB in the advert. Took a
month or so to arrive (you can get nicer ones faster from Solwise).
+1 for the recommendation to use a longer USB cable and get the dongle
well away from any electrically noisy PC and as high up as possible.
Um, what dongle? It’s a mifi unit. Yes, I suppose I could stick it in a
watertight box but I’d rather it wasn’t outside.
Post by Martin Brown
There are two competing standards on 3G for plug socket combos and the
wrong one will destroy the other so be sure to get the right one!
Rather have a 4G aerial given that there is a weakish 4G signal on site.

Tim
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Woody
2018-08-07 07:23:53 UTC
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Post by Martin Brown
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any
gotcha's to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
I got a generic Chinese one from eBay for UK 3G band (actually a brace
of them) and an adaptor to convert the fitting to the required TS9. I
have never needed to use both to get an acceptable signal. It gives
about 10dB of gain although ISTR it claimed 14dB in the advert. Took a
month or so to arrive (you can get nicer ones faster from Solwise).
+1 for the recommendation to use a longer USB cable and get the dongle
well away from any electrically noisy PC and as high up as
possible.
Um, what dongle? It's a mifi unit. Yes, I suppose I could stick it
in a
watertight box but I'd rather it wasn't outside.
Post by Martin Brown
There are two competing standards on 3G for plug socket combos and the
wrong one will destroy the other so be sure to get the right one!
Rather have a 4G aerial given that there is a weakish 4G signal on site.
The thing to watch with external aerials is the frequency banding.
Specifically many of them do not cover the 3G band around 2110MHz
although they do all of the others including the 4G picocell band at
2.6GHz.
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R. Mark Clayton
2018-08-07 10:02:43 UTC
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Post by Tim+
Post by Martin Brown
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?) 4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
I got a generic Chinese one from eBay for UK 3G band (actually a brace
of them) and an adaptor to convert the fitting to the required TS9. I
have never needed to use both to get an acceptable signal. It gives
about 10dB of gain although ISTR it claimed 14dB in the advert. Took a
month or so to arrive (you can get nicer ones faster from Solwise).
+1 for the recommendation to use a longer USB cable and get the dongle
well away from any electrically noisy PC and as high up as possible.
Um, what dongle? It’s a mifi unit. Yes, I suppose I could stick it in a
watertight box but I’d rather it wasn’t outside.
No need to go outside - just tape it in a window on the side facing the base station.
Post by Tim+
Post by Martin Brown
There are two competing standards on 3G for plug socket combos and the
wrong one will destroy the other so be sure to get the right one!
Rather have a 4G aerial given that there is a weakish 4G signal on site.
In which case you need to discover which band(s) your provider is using and buy the right aerial for that.
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Tim
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SH
2023-08-19 09:43:31 UTC
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Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
Hoo - ah - Way

4G E5776 MiFi unit
Post by Tim+
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
Tim
Woody
2023-08-20 07:01:01 UTC
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Post by SH
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
Hoo - ah - Way
4G E5776 MiFi unit
Post by Tim+
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
Tim
Pronounced wah-way

I would say suck it and see to start with as they are often much more
sensitive than you might expect.
Also choose the 'right' SP as there may be a better signal from a
different provider than you think.

The aerial connector is TS9 - look at the Solwise web site.
notya...@gmail.com
2023-08-20 15:56:43 UTC
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I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
Hoo - ah - Way
Howay [the lads!] - best to lubricate the vocal cords with several pints of Newcastle Brown Ale first. Here is an exponent: -

Post by Woody
Post by SH
4G E5776 MiFi unit
Post by Tim+
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Any recommendations?
Tim
Pronounced wah-way
I would say suck it and see to start with as they are often much more
sensitive than you might expect.
Also choose the 'right' SP as there may be a better signal from a
different provider than you think.
The aerial connector is TS9 - look at the Solwise web site.
A friend had this issue with his business in a railway arch. The solution was [then] a Teltonika 4G modem and a el cheapo (like £15) omnidirectional aerial positioned outside the steel doors. As he was ~300m from a multi-carrier base station this worked well.

If you are remote consider a directional Yagi style aerial pointing towards your best base station or even parabolic (like a satellite dish). but either you need to work out exactly which band your carrier is likely to be using or a log periodic (wider frequency range, but lower gain). Amazon sell quite a variety.

Do NOT use amplifiers, all that will happen is your transceiver and the base station will negotiate lower power.

Use good quality cables and at these frequencies as short as possible,
Java Jive
2023-08-20 14:18:52 UTC
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Post by SH
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
Hoo - ah - Way
Post by Tim+
4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Yes, different mfrs seem to have very similar looking but slightly
different sized aerial connections, and if you try to connect an aerial
with the wrong type you may damage both connectors. Make sure you order
aerials with the correct type for your unit. Hopefully it will say
somewhere in its specifications what connector are used.

And, just to spice things up a little more, any given connector type can
have different names!

I know that I've posted about the above a year or two back, but cannot
now find my original post describing the differences in connectors.
Post by SH
Post by Tim+
Any recommendations?
Be absolutely certain that you have the correct connector on the aerial,
and, although a certain pressure is required to snap the connectors
together, do not use excessive force. If excessive force seems to be
required, you may have got the wrong connector.
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Java Jive
2023-08-22 16:07:50 UTC
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Post by Java Jive
Post by SH
Post by Tim+
I have a Huawei (how the f*ck do you pronounce that?)
Hoo - ah - Way
Post by Tim+
4G E5776 MiFi unit
that I might be lending out to someone in a poor reception area.
It has a tiny socket presumably for an aerial. Are there any gotcha’s to
choosing a suitable aerial?
Yes, different mfrs seem to have very similar looking but slightly
different sized aerial connections, and if you try to connect an aerial
with the wrong type you may damage both connectors.  Make sure you order
aerials with the correct type for your unit.  Hopefully it will say
somewhere in its specifications what connector are used.
And, just to spice things up a little more, any given connector type can
have different names!
I know that I've posted about the above a year or two back, but cannot
now find my original post describing the differences in connectors.
Just found this, an example of a M-F convertor connector to link two
superficially similar connector systems which in fact differ, but only
by a small size which, given how small these things are anyway, yer
average bod might not notice. Note that the connector names IPEX MHF4
and IPX U.FL are not exactly household terms, and that in the
description the two connectors each have a range of different possible
names:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172552570831

Connector A
U.FL Socket, U.FL SMD connector ( center is male pin ), UFL Socket

Connector B
W.FL Plug, MHF4 Plug, W&#39;FL Plug
(I think '&#39;' is probably meant to come out as the digit '9', but its
HTML entity was wrongly coded.)
Post by Java Jive
Post by SH
Post by Tim+
Any recommendations?
Be absolutely certain that you have the correct connector on the aerial,
and, although a certain pressure is required to snap the connectors
together, do not use excessive force.  If excessive force seems to be
required, you may have got the wrong connector.
STET. See above!
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Fake news kills!

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